<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5326958204958381964.post7198482594669075202..comments</id><updated>2009-02-09T04:20:23.611-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on CFruhwirth's Weblog: "A workaround for Bittorrent traffic shaping" or "...</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://blog.clemens.endorphin.org/feeds/7198482594669075202/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5326958204958381964/7198482594669075202/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.clemens.endorphin.org/2008/11/workaround-for-bittorrent-traffic.html'/><author><name>Clemens Fruhwirth</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12793569769964183184</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>5</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5326958204958381964.post-2534129834935061419</id><published>2009-02-09T04:20:23.611-08:00</published><updated>2009-02-09T04:20:23.611-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Did UPC respond yet? Plz keep us updated.</title><content type='html'>Did UPC respond yet? Plz keep us updated.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5326958204958381964/7198482594669075202/comments/default/2534129834935061419'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5326958204958381964/7198482594669075202/comments/default/2534129834935061419'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.clemens.endorphin.org/2008/11/workaround-for-bittorrent-traffic.html?showComment=1234182023611#c2534129834935061419' title=''/><author><name>David</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17303842427710095173</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.clemens.endorphin.org/2008/11/workaround-for-bittorrent-traffic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5326958204958381964.post-7198482594669075202' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5326958204958381964/posts/default/7198482594669075202' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5326958204958381964.post-5801911777812991268</id><published>2008-11-15T15:23:17.422-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-15T15:23:17.422-08:00</updated><title type='text'>this scheme only uses tor for tracker communicatio...</title><content type='html'>this scheme only uses tor for tracker communications. remember, the Bittorrent tracker protocol isn't really heavy. I'd say surfing the web using Tor causes more traffic at the exit nodes. The actual transfer is still P2P, but as this scheme uses RC4 encryption, there is no unencrypted fragment in the communication a traffic shaper could listen for.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5326958204958381964/7198482594669075202/comments/default/5801911777812991268'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5326958204958381964/7198482594669075202/comments/default/5801911777812991268'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.clemens.endorphin.org/2008/11/workaround-for-bittorrent-traffic.html?showComment=1226791397422#c5801911777812991268' title=''/><author><name>Clemens Fruhwirth</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12793569769964183184</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='08083721282635694696'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.clemens.endorphin.org/2008/11/workaround-for-bittorrent-traffic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5326958204958381964.post-7198482594669075202' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5326958204958381964/posts/default/7198482594669075202' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5326958204958381964.post-8153947029017236327</id><published>2008-11-15T11:01:06.890-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-15T11:01:06.890-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Isn't using tor with bt considered Really Poor For...</title><content type='html'>Isn't using tor with bt considered Really Poor Form?</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5326958204958381964/7198482594669075202/comments/default/8153947029017236327'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5326958204958381964/7198482594669075202/comments/default/8153947029017236327'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.clemens.endorphin.org/2008/11/workaround-for-bittorrent-traffic.html?showComment=1226775666890#c8153947029017236327' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04942226888123392361</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.clemens.endorphin.org/2008/11/workaround-for-bittorrent-traffic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5326958204958381964.post-7198482594669075202' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5326958204958381964/posts/default/7198482594669075202' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5326958204958381964.post-6899430708475323199</id><published>2008-11-15T10:18:53.772-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-15T10:18:53.772-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Yes, that's right, bittorrent is totally blocked f...</title><content type='html'>Yes, that's right, bittorrent is totally blocked for me. I have two log files from my local UPC side and my own remote tracker, that clearly show that all traffic is blocked. Azureus isn't even able to contact the tracker with a direct peer connection, though ktorrent gets to the tracker, but as Azureus can't talk to any other peer. I suspect ktorrent uses a slightly different connection scheme, one which UPC doesn't listen for.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5326958204958381964/7198482594669075202/comments/default/6899430708475323199'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5326958204958381964/7198482594669075202/comments/default/6899430708475323199'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.clemens.endorphin.org/2008/11/workaround-for-bittorrent-traffic.html?showComment=1226773133772#c6899430708475323199' title=''/><author><name>Clemens Fruhwirth</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12793569769964183184</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='08083721282635694696'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.clemens.endorphin.org/2008/11/workaround-for-bittorrent-traffic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5326958204958381964.post-7198482594669075202' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5326958204958381964/posts/default/7198482594669075202' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5326958204958381964.post-8645265816613515016</id><published>2008-11-15T08:38:16.117-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-15T08:38:16.117-08:00</updated><title type='text'>I just got out from under the UPC umbrella (my DSL...</title><content type='html'>I just got out from under the UPC umbrella (my DSL got acquired along with inode) last month, but evil traffic shaping practices would be entirely within expectations for them. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Still, your technical description sounds a bit weird - wouldn't that lead to a total blocking of all bittorrent traffic? I think we would have heard about this before if that was the case.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5326958204958381964/7198482594669075202/comments/default/8645265816613515016'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5326958204958381964/7198482594669075202/comments/default/8645265816613515016'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://blog.clemens.endorphin.org/2008/11/workaround-for-bittorrent-traffic.html?showComment=1226767096117#c8645265816613515016' title=''/><author><name>Thomas</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13952924286037255721</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://blog.clemens.endorphin.org/2008/11/workaround-for-bittorrent-traffic.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5326958204958381964.post-7198482594669075202' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5326958204958381964/posts/default/7198482594669075202' type='text/html'/></entry></feed>